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Great all around.","reviewer_name":"Rick"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Very good","rating":5,"content":"Good purchase","reviewer_name":"Mickey"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Five stars","rating":5,"content":"Cool box, nice rolling tray, nice wood grain, rolling tray nice af too.","reviewer_name":"Craig"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Needed","rating":5,"content":"Love having everything in one spot. Build quality is top notch, overall feels luxury!","reviewer_name":"Anthony"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Looks good","rating":5,"content":"Nice box, good to carry around when going somewhere and having everything organized. Looks good sitting out too.","reviewer_name":"Kit"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"God Tier","rating":5,"content":"Super useful and has saved me so much table space","reviewer_name":"Bryon"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Super dope box","rating":5,"content":"The box is awesome it’s exactly what I wanted","reviewer_name":"LK"},{"date":"2 months ago","title":"Looks great and works well","rating":5,"content":"I love the look and it does a good job keeping things organized, clean and less smelly.","reviewer_name":"Rob"},{"date":"3 months ago","title":"Awesome stash box","rating":5,"content":"So far the Ludist Stash Box is everything I expected and more, for a great price! It has plenty of room and is well designed for a variety of accessories.","reviewer_name":"Jeremy F."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Stash box","rating":5,"content":"Love the look.   Very happy with the box.","reviewer_name":"Susan F."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Stash box","rating":5,"content":"Awesome container. Seals contents effectively. Travels ok.","reviewer_name":"Richard P."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Only 2 boxes rule my life","rating":5,"content":"My wife has the other one 😉.  Can’t live without them","reviewer_name":"Shaun B."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"LOVE","rating":5,"content":"Love it!!! It keeps my room from smelling and keeps all my items super organized!","reviewer_name":"Sabina F."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Box was great!","rating":4,"content":"Although I wish it were a bit smaller to travel with it was overall good box. Unfortunately I damaged it by accident.","reviewer_name":"Leon C."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Stash box","rating":5,"content":"Love it keeps everytging handy and in one place plenty of room","reviewer_name":"Curt B."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Love it","rating":5,"content":"The box is beautiful. It’s sturdy and seals very well. Keeps the smell in. I highly recommend this storage box","reviewer_name":"James E."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"Stash box","rating":5,"content":"Great and classic design.  Keep up the good work. All you items are clean and classsy.  All the way","reviewer_name":"Tim A."},{"date":"4 months ago","title":"It's mostly effective and looks good","rating":4,"content":"My only gripe, the lid does not sit even when placed on the box. Due to this manufacturing mishap, smell slightly emanates from the container. Not enough to be noticeable in the room, but close by the box the scent can be picked up. 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Just know if you want the best box and grinder….this is it.","reviewer_name":"Cindy B."},{"date":"9 months ago","title":"It’s so sleek","rating":5,"content":"I got this color because it matched perfectly with my coffee tables. My wife loves it too. It is also genuinely smell proof. The wood material made for the lid even smells high quality, it has that nice sound when you knock it you know? Flower chamber is also adequately sized in my opinion. The spot for joints is perfect for cigarette sized joints, anything longer can get squished.","reviewer_name":"Gabriel"}],"target_countries":"US","canonical_url":"https://pudl.store/products/ludist-duo","reddit_insights":{"match":{"notes":"Only a couple of threads mention 'Ludist', and none mention 'Duo', so it's unclear if they refer to the specific model.","confidence":0.6,"matched_terms":["Ludist"]},"status":"ok","coverage":{"subreddits":["trees","ZonaEnts"],"threads_used":2},"evidence":{"items":[{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1pvi570/tell_me_what_grinders_you_would_recommend_pls/nvwbmff/","type":"comment","title":"Positive Ludist grinder recommendation","author":"tjansx","ref_id":"r_e_2","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1pvi570/tell_me_what_grinders_you_would_recommend_pls/","title":"tell me what grinders you would recommend pls","subreddit":"trees"},"excerpt":"I got a Ludist. 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